找房子遭遇诈骗,有办法能抓住这个团伙吗?

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陆薇尔 发表于 2014-6-5 23:02:34 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式

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在boligportal.dk上找房子,遭遇诈骗,昨天下午才意识到。今天下午刚去警察局报案,等待进一步interview。

具体是这样的:
因为学校的房子7月底到期,所以着急找房子,5月24号在boligportal.dk注册成会员后,找到了一个离现在住的地方很近的一个apartment,而且很便宜,于是联系了房主。5月25号房主回复:

its a 3 beautiful bedroom apartment for rent which cost 2500 kr per room and a total of 5200 monthly for the whole apartment and 104 meter square,all utility bills included in the rent and a refundable deposit of 10000 kr. the place will be available for 4years or more.Little about me,am Behruz and my wife is Janne ,we both own the place and we are relocating to Belgium that why we are renting the place out.the apartment is located in Marthagade 3, 4., 2100 København Ø.

Beautiful, bright 3-bedroom housing cooperative apartments with two balconies.
Cooperative is located in quiet surroundings, close to green areas, various
shops, institutions and shops. Additionally, there are tickets for public
transport both bus and commuter trains and future Metro, and only a short bike ride from
Svanemøllen Beach. It is a very family friendly association with a good farm to
kids with sandpits, swings etc..
- Bright kitchen with large dining area and access to balcony
- Ground which is part of the family room, with ample space for large sofa set
- Beautifully tiled bathroom with separate shower
- Bright bedroom with access to balcony
- Room with access to huge loft

we are currently out of town makes the place available for rent,we have relocated to the Belgium due to our new job there but we can make use of an agency to handle the viewing and the payment without any additional cost on you.you can talk to me on +3225885769

并附有图片,看着很不错,而且价格很便宜(陷阱啊)。房主告诉我他们刚搬到比利时,而且给了电话,打过去,稍微聊了下,口音很重,没太听懂。我说对他的房主很感兴趣,他说email继续联系,然后收到他的email:

we have already arranged with the agency and have also paid for there service since we are out of town and does not want the tenant to pay to us directly without seeing the place(which is against the Denmark regulation)so that why the online agency would have to come in to handle the payment and viewing of the place.here is there website http://www.savills.co.uk

I will explain to you step by step how this will work:

1 - i have already registered with the service and have handed over the keys of the apartment to them for the exchange(you don't have to register with them again,they will contact you)
2 - you will have to get back to me with your full shipping information, full name, full shipping address to proceed with this deal(your full name and contact address where the keys will be delivered,along with your email address)
3 - (savills) will send to you a notification(through an email provided) to let you know what they have received and conditions attached
4 - (Savills) will tell you to make the deposit ( first month and deposit ) to there account,to see you have the money.(which makes the payment traceable).
5 - (savills) will verify the payment information and if everything is in order they will deliver the apartment keys and the contract to you by DHL or UPS and you will be able to receive it in 2 days.
6 - After you receive the package, you will check the apartment and you must contact them and tell them if you will KEEP the apartment or NOT. If all is in order you will confirm to (savills)  that you want to release the money to me, if you don`t like the apartment you will send back the apartment keys with the rental contract, and you will get back your payment.

You can check the agent website on trust pilot to know they are very reliable.

他跟我解释了下面如何操作,说需要通过一个叫savills的中介。我把钱打给中介,中介寄钥匙过来,然后我看房,确认后中介再把钱给房主。我再网上查了一下这个叫savills的公司,是英国的跨国上市公司,貌似很可靠。5月26号一叫Anna Konarska的自称是savills的员工的女人发email(地址)过来,邮件是这样的:

Savills
33 Margaret Street
London, W1G 0JD
United Kingdom
Company No. 2122174       
savills

Dear customer

My name is Anna Konarska representing savills,our duty is to make sure we handle safely any property or money between the parties involve with quality service and at a very low cost.A merchandise has been lodged in our office by Mr Behruz Banissi,which contain keys with some other document ,having provided for the exchange of a sum of 15200 DKK of the House Address:我的地址. From 我的地址.
        The merchandise is reportedly in our office for a secure exchange between the parties involved which we consider as "Landlord and Tenant" under savills Electronic Commerce (EC Directive) Regulations 2002 & Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) Regulations 2000 Notices.You can write back to us here by clicking "reply".We will await your prompt response to ensure the delivery of our email to the right person has named above.These email is highly confidential.

Best Regards
Anna

savills
Tel:+44 (0) 2036 951383
Mobile:+44 (0) 7960 438123
Email:savills@realtyagent.com
Website:www.savills.co.uk
P Before printing, think about the environment

*The content of this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the person authorised as responsible for delivery to the intended recipient(s), please note that any reading, printing, storage, disclosure, copying or any other action taken in respect of this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.

email里做了savills的超链接,点击直接到savills的主页。(可惜当时没有怀疑她的email地址savills@realtyagent.com,这个后缀指向一个莫名奇妙的主页。)然后我确认了身份,她继续email:

     Thanks for confirming,we'll want you to make a wire transfer of 15200 DKK to the account below :
Bank: Nationwide UK
Acc Name: Savills O Ogundari
Sort code; 070246
Acc no: 37472584
Iban: GB03 NAIA 0702 4637 4725 84
BIC: NAIAGB21
Bank Address: Nationwide Building Society
Electra House
Swindon
SN1 5TY

   You will have to get back with the payment information on time,in other to send the keys as soon as possible to your address to view the apartment and to decide if you will have to rent it or not.

Best Regards

Anna

在充分相信这个公司后,5月27号付款过去了。(这一步太着急了,也正好赶上我26号要去英国开会,到6月3号才能回来,欲速则不达啊)。不过钱并没有马上到他们账户,因为正好赶上丹麦放假,银行耽误了。不过这途中这骗子和中介每天催,5月29号,骗子居然打了4个电话到我手机,问我到底打了钱没有,当时正开会,被逼得不行,我只好告诉他我们放弃他房子的申请,结果晚上收到了他的道歉信:

am sorry, dont give up. i only want to be sure you make the payment because anytime I make international transfers, its takes 24hrs so am really concern.am very sorry if I had pushed, I wont rush you again. I consider you to be our tenant and we have stop talking to other interested people because of you...would you consider the place again.

结果我还是相信了,交易继续。但钱直到6月3号才到他们账户。于此同时,收到了Behrus的email:

I have seen someone who came to check the apartment before we left for Belgium and the couples are interested in renting the place and the couples are willing to pay me 5months advance and deposit (26000+10000=36000).which is very nice for us here because  we needed money to buy new furniture since we don't have any here, i think if you can come up with some more payment since you sent 1month rent and deposit to the agency(which has not arrived)I will add to you 1month or 2month free if you can come up with 4month rent base on your trustworthiness for sending the payment but if you don't I will have to tell the agency to refund your money if it arrives and sorry for these, i hope you will understand ..am waiting to hear from you

他告诉我有另一对夫妇也看了他的房子,并且原因付押金10000+5个月房租,他说他现在刚搬到比利时急需钱买家居。如果我能预付4个月的房租,他甚至可以让我免费住1个月(他知道我的房子7月底才到期,还有1个多月才能搬到新地方)。我想好地方,价格便宜有竞争也很正常,所以就答应了。然后中介开始催我付剩下的款:

   We have confirmed the payment this morning.We also receive a change of process from Mr Behruz which he confirmed a latest agreement between the both of you, stating  the payment of (36000 DKK)being payment for 5month advance plus deposit with 2month free stay which makes the total of 7month rent plus refundable deposit.If the process is agreed between the both of you,we will want you to make the concluded payment of 20800 DKK to the account below.We have a change in the account to speed up the receiving of the payment.
Bank: BARCLAYS BANK
Name. Savills Andersons
Sort code : 206155
Account: 53003345
IBAN: GB15BARC20615553003345
Bank BIC BARCGB210YM
Branch: 267 Wellingborough Rd, Northampton NN1 4EN

          We await your prompt response and the payment slip in the new account above.
Best Regards
Anna

并给了个新的账户,我回复并要求寄钥匙,结果那边强调说:

You have to make payment in the new account i sent to you.Thanks

然后(6月4号)我要求房主先让我看房再付剩余款,

I'd like to take a look at your apartment before sending the remaining 20800 DKK to the agency. Frankly, I think I trust too much the agency. Hope you understand this. If you agree, could you tell the agency to mail the key now? This is good for us. Thanks!

结果房主的回复:

Yes I told you I have to hold the people that are interested in the place because they have seen the place before we left for Belgium and they want to pay to me directly not through any agency.i must say I gave you the opportunity because you have really committed to the place by paying for the keys which I promise to add free month,so if you do not want to further again,you can let me know so I can collect the rent fee from the couples and tell the agency to refund for you.i have already told the agency to mail the keys to you as soon as you paid to them without me giving them any further excuse again.am sorry but you have to understand me,me and my family don't have any furnitures here.please go ahead with the process.so we can get the money on time after you have taken the place

the agency mailed me now that you are losing trust in them,so they ask me if you want a refund. why these again after what I told you in the last mail .do you want the refund?

但是我仍然没有意识到他是骗子。他问我为什么不信任中介,是否需要退款。心想废了这么多心血,退款还要找新房子,然后找朋友商量,他立刻告诉我这可能是骗局,我才开始意识到这个可能性,然后email给他,说请退款。他的回答很干脆:

I have already inform the agency, she said it will take 8working days. good luck in your search.

昨天晚上(6月4号),开始回想这整个过程,越想越觉得可疑,今天再email给boligportal.dk打听情况,结果他们回复:

Thank you for your e-mail.

I am sorry to inform you that this person is a scammer. You should definetly not tranfer more money, and if you have the chance you should contact your bank and see if its possible to withdraw the transfer of 15.200 DKK.

We sent an e-mail about this person, that informed about this guy and that he was a scammer.

We are really sorry to hear about your situation and hope that you can get your money back. Try to contact the police and see if they can help you with anything.

Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
Anders Østergaard

BoligPortal.dk

确认他是骗子。妈的,悔恨当初为啥没早问。今天下午已去警察局报案,他们让我等另一个专门处理fraud案件的警官进一步处理。

由于不甘心,我继续联系房主,告诉他我愿意继续交易,他很快给我回复:

The couples would have make the payment today but they said there is holiday so they said next week, since they are yet to make the payment we can continue. i will only let them know if to transfer the money or not base on our conclusion, to make the whole thing better and faster to make decision. you can contact the agency now, they will tell you what to do and contact me on there decision.i have also mailed them now and I will call you shortly

告诉我由于假期,另一对夫妇仍然没有付款,所以我还有机会。然后很快给我打了电话,我这次录了音,希望能提交给警察局,能有些帮助。
我答应他明天给他汇余款,所以他一定会再联系我,案情继续。。。


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 楼主| 陆薇尔 发表于 2014-6-5 23:06:20 | 显示全部楼层
刚尝试打到中介的电话,+44 (0) 2036 951383是空号
通过savils主页查叫Anna Konarska的员工,查无此人!

现在还在和他们周旋,他们也不知道我已经报了警,

各位有没有好的办法可以抓住这个团伙?
深海大虾米 发表于 2014-6-5 23:19:57 | 显示全部楼层
我有个朋友也是被这种方式骗的,说房主在国外通过中介转钱,警方通过网络查他的IP地址,但是我对丹麦警察的能力实在保持怀疑,我几年前家里被入室盗窃了,警察来溜达一圈,最后也不了了之了。通过报社曝光可以给丹麦警察局压力迫使他们查办。
 楼主| 陆薇尔 发表于 2014-6-6 07:50:48 | 显示全部楼层
深海大虾米 发表于 2014-6-5 22:19
我有个朋友也是被这种方式骗的,说房主在国外通过中介转钱,警方通过网络查他的IP地址,但是我对丹麦警察的 ...

哪个报社?求具体联系方式,谢谢大虾米!
龙一 发表于 2014-6-6 09:21:53 | 显示全部楼层
非常关注,现在真是骗子横行啊!大家一定小心!
 楼主| 陆薇尔 发表于 2014-6-6 13:35:32 | 显示全部楼层
上午直接去银行说明了情况,他们给我一个专门负责处理诈骗的部门电话:45129200。打了很多次,终于接通,说明了情况之后,他们说要转接领导,等了几分钟,没有人,然后回复我说可能度假去了。只能等下周二上班处理。

今天也没有接到警察局的电话。无奈只好再去警察局。好在有了丹麦同事的陪同,警察局的接待告诉我,案件已经上报,但是目前还没有指定的警官接手,因为大部分都放假了,最早要等到下周一才会有人可能来专门处理我的案子。

晚上骗子如果没有看到回复,一定会再联系我。各位有没有好的主意可以拖住他?
oldfish 发表于 2014-6-6 14:34:55 | 显示全部楼层
你还是多想想能不能把钱弄回来吧

警察方面不要指望太多,更何况你这钱是汇到一个外国银行里去了
Alexsandra 发表于 2014-6-6 14:58:46 | 显示全部楼层
我以前夜差点被骗,房主在英国,反正就是各种说,后来拿email的部分内容google,就发现是骗子了。很奇怪的是不管说搬哪去,咋都和英国有关啊。
 楼主| 陆薇尔 发表于 2014-6-6 19:32:00 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
oldfish 发表于 2014-6-6 13:34
你还是多想想能不能把钱弄回来吧

警察方面不要指望太多,更何况你这钱是汇到一个外国银行里去了 ...

怎么自己把钱弄回来?求建议
afancy 发表于 2014-6-6 19:51:45 | 显示全部楼层
赶紧联系你汇款去的英国的银行帐号,说是骗子,让银行先把钱冻结!
oldfish 发表于 2014-6-6 20:51:26 | 显示全部楼层
陆薇尔 发表于 2014-6-6 19:32
怎么自己把钱弄回来?求建议

只能死马当活的医,带上警察的case No.,到你的银行去问问

不过你的钱已经转走几天了,对面又是挖好了坑等着你跳的,不乐观

如果是用卡付的,会好很多
champsheep 发表于 2014-6-6 21:02:00 | 显示全部楼层
你也真够大意的 上来就付1万5.。。。 基本上要不回来 除非Interpol把这个案子破了。。
oldfish 发表于 2014-6-6 21:10:23 | 显示全部楼层
陆薇尔 发表于 2014-6-6 19:32
怎么自己把钱弄回来?求建议

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oldfish 发表于 2014-6-6 21:14:34 | 显示全部楼层
陆薇尔 发表于 2014-6-6 19:32
怎么自己把钱弄回来?求建议

龙狱似乎会自动删帖。。。。。。

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oldfish 发表于 2014-6-6 21:15:32 | 显示全部楼层
陆薇尔 发表于 2014-6-6 19:32
怎么自己把钱弄回来?求建议

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oldfish 发表于 2014-6-6 21:22:42 | 显示全部楼层
http://www.dnforum.com/threads/w ... p-criminals.400645/

这帮骗子估计用了个业界通用的模板
 楼主| 陆薇尔 发表于 2014-6-6 22:17:39 | 显示全部楼层
oldfish 发表于 2014-6-6 19:51
只能死马当活的医,带上警察的case No.,到你的银行去问问

不过你的钱已经转走几天了,对面又是挖好了坑 ...

骗子又同意我把剩余的钱打到原来的账户,所以感觉还有机会。但是我今天一大早已经拿了警察局的reference No./case No.到银行去,银行也很同情并热心帮忙,但是他们并不处理诈骗,只是把我的情况报告了他们的部门header,说让我一会儿给专门负责诈骗的部门打电话。一番折腾,最后联系上了这个部门,是几个中年妇女接的电话,转了好几个人,最后一个老年妇女说要更高级的领导负责,尝试了3次,都没有人接听,告诉我他们放假了。要下周二才能上班。。。
 楼主| 陆薇尔 发表于 2014-6-6 22:19:21 | 显示全部楼层
champsheep 发表于 2014-6-6 20:02
你也真够大意的 上来就付1万5.。。。 基本上要不回来 除非Interpol把这个案子破了。。 ...

第一次找房子,以为都是先付钱给中介,再拿钥匙。教训啊~
 楼主| 陆薇尔 发表于 2014-6-6 22:20:06 | 显示全部楼层
afancy 发表于 2014-6-6 18:51
赶紧联系你汇款去的英国的银行帐号,说是骗子,让银行先把钱冻结!

email联系了那边银行,但是没有回复
 楼主| 陆薇尔 发表于 2014-6-6 22:22:11 | 显示全部楼层
龙一 发表于 2014-6-6 08:21
非常关注,现在真是骗子横行啊!大家一定小心!

希望我的教训,能避免更多的受害者
 楼主| 陆薇尔 发表于 2014-6-6 22:23:23 | 显示全部楼层
oldfish 发表于 2014-6-6 20:15
Domain Name: realtyagent.com

Registrant Name: ATTN Domain Inquiries

realtyagent.com这个域名确实有问题,早注意到就好了
oldfish 发表于 2014-6-7 01:22:10 | 显示全部楼层
陆薇尔 发表于 2014-6-6 22:17
骗子又同意我把剩余的钱打到原来的账户,所以感觉还有机会。但是我今天一大早已经拿了警察局的reference  ...

我的意思是看看银行能不能帮你chargeback;不过我在丹麦时没碰到过这种事情,所以不太确定
龙一 发表于 2014-6-7 10:18:04 | 显示全部楼层
陆薇尔 发表于 2014-6-6 22:22
希望我的教训,能避免更多的受害者

更希望你的案件得到圆满解决
 楼主| 陆薇尔 发表于 2014-6-8 17:59:15 | 显示全部楼层
联系了UK的银行,收到了那边的回复:

Thank you for your message regarding fraud on your account.
I am sorry to learn of your concerns in relation to fraud on your account. If you believe your debit card or account has been used fraudulently, you will need to contact our Special Investigations Department to have the matter investigated.  Please call on 08457 778833 select option 2 and then option 1.  They are available Monday to Friday 9am to 5pm, Saturday 9am to 3pm and Sunday 10am to 3pm.  If abroad please contact us on +44 1793 774000.
I would like to thank you for contacting us. If you need anything else please reply to this message or give us a call on 0800 302011. If abroad, please call +44 1793 656789.

Regards,

Hannah Field
Customer Consultant
E-Cont@cts
Customer Service and Operations

http://www.nationwide.co.uk

看看明天联系他们是什么情况
 楼主| 陆薇尔 发表于 2014-6-9 16:39:47 | 显示全部楼层
联系了真正的savills公司,询问是否存在叫Anna Konarska的员工,收到回复:

Thanks for your enquiry. We have checked all our HR systems and she is not listed as a Savills employee so please do not make this payment.

If you could let me know your local area I will send you the details of our local Savills estate agents/office.

Thanks

Lizann de Wet BA (Hons)
Business Development Executive
Business Development

Savills, 33 Margaret Street, London, W1G 0JD

Tel:+44 (0) 20 7409 8067
Mobile:+44 (0) 7886 780 287
EmailDewet@savills.com
Website:www.savills.co.uk
P  Before printing, think about the environment

确认没有此人!比较了骗子所用的email模版,确实很相似。

直到现在,仍然没有收到警察电话。。。
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